Sign In
Forgot Password?
Sign In | | Create Account

"Why Cartesian Grids Are Good"

I put the title in quotes as it’s the title of a blog post by John Chawner at Pointwise who keeps a pleasantly vendor neutral(ish) blog about all things CFD called ‘Another Fine Mesh’, including the excellent weekly ‘This Week in CFD’ that is becoming a bit of a mecca for the CFD community. John’s blog focusses on a white paper Mentor issued recently about How to Choose an Effective Grid System for CFD Meshing. I thought it would be a good opportunity to talk about the motivation and strategy that has resulted in such meshes being central to the technologies of FloTHERM, FloVENT and FloEFD, our flagship CFD tools.

The Most Extreme CFD Model Ever Ever?

When David Tatchell and Harvey Rosten left CHAM in the late 1980s to start Flomerics they had a vision to provide ‘good science to engineers’, this phrase was even written on the front page of the original Flomerics business case. The choice of the CFD numerics that they deployed in first FloSYS and then in FloTHERM and FloVENT was fully intended. Structured Cartesian mesh with a fully structured solver provided the robustness, stability and low memory footprint that was a pre-requisite for the class of user that they were targeting. Engineers have enough to do as it is when designing product, adding the requirement to understand numerical methods, gridding systems, the subtleties of turbulence modelling, near wall treatments etc. would detract from their primary objective. At most an  understanding of fluid dynamics is required to ensure that the model definition is valid and that results can be interpreted correctly.

Wind the clock forward to 2005 and Flomerics were in the market for acquisitions. Despite the possibility of an alternative, NIKA was chosen as the preferred company and the acquisition was completed in July 2006. Started by Roland Feldhinkel in 1999 with a vision of the ‘democratisation of CFD’ (now a somewhat popularist and overused term) via its FloEFD product line, NIKA shared the same philosophies as Flomerics. As was described in the acquisition press release at the time:

“The fundamental philosophy behind FloEFD has a lot in common with that behind the existing Flomerics products, namely delivering complex simulation software in a way that is easily accessible and usable by engineers who are not analysis specialists. Whilst CFD is an established technology which has been used by specialists for many years, the delivery of CFD solutions to broad-based mechanical CAD (MCAD) users in the engineering design community is relatively new.”

Again, it was both by design and no coincidence that FloEFD too was founded on a Cartesian gridding system. A different one albeit using an octree approach for mesh refinement and a novel meshless near wall treatment. With it being fully embedded in numerous MCAD systems FloEFD’s CFD technology had to be robust enough for both the target user as well as the complex (and often ‘unclean’) geometry encountered.

FloEFD image from Travis Mikjaniec's blog "CFD and the Olympics"

As David Tatchell succinctly described it in his blog – Don’t Mistake “Simple to Use CFD” for “Simple CFD”.

Since the acquisition of Flomerics by Mentor Graphics in 2008 our CFD technology continues to adapt to changing environments. The move towards Windows based systems, 64 bit operating systems and the massive simulation models that are now commonplace, multi core/processor systems that are now standard, all are driving our product roadmaps but we will not be dissuaded from the path that we set out on and a Cartesian approach will underpin our technology going forward.

27th October 2012, Ross-on-Wye

CFD, FloVENT

More Blog Posts

About Robin Bornoff Follow on Twitter

Robin BornoffRobin Bornoff achieved a Mechanical Engineering Degree from Brunel University in 1992 followed by a PhD in 1995 for CFD research. He then joined Mentor Graphics Corporation, Mechanical Analysis Division (formerly Flomerics Ltd) as an application and support engineer, specializing in the application of CFD to electronics cooling and the design of the built environment. Having been the Product Marketing Manager responsible for the FloTHERM and FloVENT softwares he is now Market Development Manager for the Physical Design of Electronics in the Mechanical Analysis Division. Visit Robin Bornoff's blog

More Posts by Robin Bornoff

Comments 2

Post a Comment
Robin: Thanks for the mention. I also very much agree with the sentiment in the title "Don't Mistake Simple to Use CFD for Simple CFD." Which leads me to ask a question about the term "democratization" which is currently being bandied about the CFD world to mean, when you strip away all the baggage, that non-expert users will be running CFD. Egads! Do you think this is a good thing or something to be concerned about?

John Chawner
4:51 PM Sep 27, 2012

The commercial drivers for such an adoption of CFD technology are clear. The same press release I quoted from above (targeted at investors etc.) goes on to say "...Since the number of installed seats of MCAD software is orders of magnitude greater than the number of seats of simulation software, this represents a significant opportunity for growth." So, with that behind it I think that it's just a matter of time before the technology breaks out to mainstream, becomes commoditized and all the rest that comes with that. Is it a bad thing? Depends what you mean by experts. If you relate the CFD 'industry' to the automotive industry then the former is about where we were in 1900 (sure this could be debated!). You had to have a certain amount of mechanical engineering expertise to get from A2B, car could break down, not start etc. Kind of limited the market for who would buy a car. To break out to the automotive industry of today the technology has to be automated, robust, well serviced etc. The drive to evolve CFD technology to achieve this is a passion (for us).

Robin Bornoff
5:02 PM Sep 27, 2012

Add Your Comment

Please complete the following information to comment or sign in.

(Your email will not be published)

Archives

 
Online Chat